While the phrase “dear old Dad” may seem very 20th century, the sentiment becomes much more immediate during the few times a year when we grasp for gift ideas that might please the dads and grandfathers in our lives — often while they insist they need nothing.

We surveyed ourselves—two middle-aged dads who love tech—and came up with this list of gifts we'd love to get this Father's Day.

Father's Day was first recognized in 1916 by President Woodrow Wilson, who made Mother's Day an official holiday in 1914. Then, President Calvin Coolidge urged states to observe the holiday in 1924.